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[NI7900] Patriot Tennessean and signer of The Cumberland Compact of government at N ashborough May 1, 1780.

[NI7902] 1900 Gibson County, TN, District 21 Census
Transcribed by Jackie Isbell Johnston (jjohns1873@aol.com)
Additional comments and or interpretation are in parenthesis.
It appears that census takers interpreted the Farm Schedule Column in vari ous ways.
The town of Dyer, TN is divided into four wards; and, a fifth part
for those who lived outside of town.
This would include the Currie Community which is at the end of this distri ct.

OUTSIDE OF TOWN CENSUS TAKER: B. W. OVERA LL DATE: 9 JUNE 1900

NAME RELATION PERSONAL DESCRIPTI ON CHILDREN NATIVITY OCCUPATI ON EDUCATION OWNERSHIP OF HOME
MARITAL YEARS CHILD CHI LD FATHER MOTHER ATTEND ED OWN OR FREE OR FARM OR FARM
Race Sex Birth A ge STATUS MARRIED # BORN LIVING POB POB P OB SCHOOL(mos) Read Write SpeakEng RENT MORG H OUSE SCH#
167 Overall, John W. Head W M June 18 53 47 M 23 TN TN MO Farm er yes yes yes O F F 1 72
Fredonia R.(Flowers) Wife W F Feb 18 60 40 M 23 11 9 TN NC TN yes y es yes
Lorenzo Dow Son W M Feb 18 84 16 S TN TN TN Farm L aborer 8yes yes yes
Louis H. Son W M Mar 18 86 14 S TN TN TN Farm L aborer 6yes yes yes
Daniel L. Son W M June 18 90 10 S TN TN TN Farm L aborer 8yes yes yes
Jasper E. Son W M Oct 18 92 7 S TN TN TN
Earl C. Son W M Jan 18 95 5 S TN TN TN
Ernest Son W M Jan 18 95 5 S TN TN TN
Rosa E. Daughter W F Apr 18 97 3 S TN TN TN
Mary P. Daughter W F Sept 1899 8/ 12 S TN TN TN
-----------, John Servant B M Mar 18 75 25 S TN TN TN Farm L aborer yes yes yes
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[NI7906] Served in the Navy in WWII

[NI7909] Served in the Marines

[NI7934] Gibson County TN Federal Census 1870, Civil District No. 2
enumerated 23 June 1870 by W. A. Stilwell pg 216 a
P.O., Humboldt
Value of
House Property Birth
Nbr. Names of Household Age Sex Col Profession Real Pers Location

57 Warran, J.T. 53 M W Produce Broker TN
Altella D. 46 F W Keeps house "
Julia I. 23 F W At home "
John T. 21 M W Farmer "
Mollie 18 F W At home "
Jas F. 16 M W Farmer "
Sallie H. 14 F W At home "
Geo P. 12 M W " "
Horace N. 10 M W " "

http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/census/fedl1870/1870-dist2.txt
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Gibson County TN Federal Census1880:
Census Place:Covington, Tipton, Tennessee
Source:FHL Film 1255282 National Archives Film T9-1282 Page 29 9C
RelationSexMarrRaceAgeBirthplace
James B. CARNESelfMMW32TN
Occ:MinisterFa: NCMo: NC
Mary C. CARNEWifeFMW28TN
Occ:Keeps HouseFa: TNMo: TN
John W. CARNESonMSW8TN
Fa: TNMo: TN
James B. CARNESonMSW6TN
Fa: TNMo: TN
Louis E. CARNESonMSW2TN
Fa: TNMo: TN
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DYERSBURG STATE GAZETTE March 29, 1906

Mrs. Mollie CARNE has gone to Texas to visit relatives.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~tndyer/newspapers/gazette21.html
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DYERSBURG STATE GAZETTE JANUARY 24, 1907

J. B. CARNE from Memphis was here several days visiting his mother & broth er. He left Monday for New Mexico.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~tndyer/newspapers/gazette27.html
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DYERSBURG STATE GAZETTE THURSDAY, APRIL 25, 1907

Mrs. M. C. CARNE has returned from Trenton, after a ten weeks stay with re latives.

http://www.rootsweb.com/~tndyer/newspapers/gazette40.html
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DYERSBURG STATE GAZETTE MAY 23, 1907

Mrs. M. C. CARNE left for Memphis Saturday to spend several weeks with rel atives.

http://www.rootsweb.com/~tndyer/newspapers/gazette41.html
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DYERSBURG STATE GAZETTE FRIDAY AFTERNOON FEBRUARY 11, 1916

LOCAL AND PERSONAL--J. T. WARREN of Humboldt, left for home yesterday aft er being the guest of his sister, MRS. MARY CARNE and nephew, MAJOR CARNE.

http://www.rootsweb.com/~tndyer/newspapers/gazette46.html
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[NI7946] Sent William Jeff's children, Eudie Josephine, Minnie, and Sam to colleg e. Also sent Luther Capus' daughter Ollie Mai and son Elmo to college.

From "The Family of William Jefferson Robinson" by Eudine M. Britton
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[NI7960] Andrew Jackson Overall, ca. 1818 - 1848, husb. of Narcissa Overall
Posted by: Phyllis Winthurst (ID *****6594) Date: November 19, 2003 at 15: 03:55
of 198


His obituary published in the Nashville Christian Advocate, June 9, 1848:

Died, in Rutherford county, Tenn., March 8th, 1848, the Rev. Andrew Jacks on Overall; in the 30th year of his age. He was 16 years a member of the M ethodist E. Church, and about half of that time a local preacher; but in t he prime of life he left the church militant and has gone to the "spirit l and." He has left a wife and 7 small children to weep and mourn their loss .

May God bless them, and may they find a friend in Jesus. Amen. B. R. C.
Stone's River cir., May 23, 1848


(Note: Both Andrew and Narcissa were Overalls. It is believed by the submi tter their grandfathers were brothers.)


The Overall Family Forum http://genforum.genealogy.com/overall/messages/18 8.html posted by Phyllis Winthurst
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[NI7961] From "The Overall Family"

Catherine, born 1817, died 1860, married Wm. McCombs, they went West, so me of their decendants live in Madison Co., Tenn.
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Catherine (Overall) McCombs, ca. 1816-1859, d/o Robert
Posted by: Phyllis Winthurst (ID *****6594) Date: November 19, 2003 at 08: 14:12
of 198


Her obit from the Nashville Christian Advocate, September 1859 (also publi shed in Memphis Advocate):

Died, in Gibson county, Tenn., July 2, 1859, Mrs. Catharine, wife of Wm. M cCombs, and daughter of Robert Overall, of Rutherford county. Trained by s uch a father, it was to be expected that she would live and die like a Chr istian. She embraced relision at Overall's Campground, in Rutherford count y, in 1836, and from that time she was a worthy member of the M. E. Chur ch till her pilgrimage ended. Her death was full of holy triumph. She exho rted her husband, her children, and her friends to have faith and meet h er in heaven. Much might be said of her Christian virtues; but eternity al one can reveal fully her works and labor of love. She leaves a husband a nd eight children, all in the faith, and comforted in the midst of their a fflictions with the hope of meeting their companion and mother in the Chri stian's heaven.

Guilford Jones

Memphis Advocate please copy.

From The Overall Forum http://genforum.genealogy.com/overall/messages/182. html posted by Phyllis Winthurst
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[NI7962] (Note: Both Andrew and Narcissa were Overalls. It is believed by the submi tter their grandfathers were brothers.)

From the Overall Family Forum http://genforum.genealogy.com/overall/messag es/188.html posted by Phyllis Winthurst
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[NI7964] From "The Overall Family"

John Wesley Overall, born 1818, married Miss Wood, one son and four daught er. His wife died and he married Mrs. Polly McCullough, and by this marria ge one son, viz; Robert who lives in Texas. J. W. Overall lives in Gibs on County, Tennessee, age 91. (Note this would make "The Overall Famil y" date from 1909! J.W.H.)
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1880 US Census:
Census Place:Dyer Station, Gibson, Tennessee
Source:FHL Film 1255255 National Archives Film T9-1255 Page 52 8C
RelationSexMarrRaceAgeBirthplace
John W. OVERALLSelfMMW62TN
Occ:FarmerFa: TNMo: TN
Sallie A. OVERALLWifeFMW56TN
Occ:Keep HouseFa: VAMo: VA
Mary F. OVERALLGDauFSW12TN
Occ:At HomeFa: TNMo: TN
Jane NEWHOUSEOtherFB35TN
Occ:CookFa: ---Mo: ---
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THE 1900 CENSUS of GIBSON COUNTY TENNESSEE DISTRICT N O. 21 P.O. DYER, TN
TRANSCRIBED BY JACKIE ISBELL JOHNSTON
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NAME RELATION PERSONAL DESCRIPTI ON CHILDREN NATIVITY OCCUPA TION Months NoAttendedSchool EDUCATION OWNERSH IP OF HOME
MARIT AL YEARS CHILD FATHER MOTH ER SPE AK OWN FREE FARM FARM
Race Sex Birth AGE STAT US MARRIED #Born LIVING POB POB P OB Employed (In Months) Read Write ENGLI SH RENT MORTG HOUSE SCH #
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95 Overall, J. W. Head W M Apr 18 18 82 M TN VA VA yes yes yes
Sallie A. Wife W F Jan 18 22 73 M 4 3 TN VA VA yes yes yes
Ballentine, Jane Housekeeper W W Unk 18 55 45 M 1 1 TN TN TN Ho usekeeper yes yes yes

[NI7967] From "The Overall Family"

Marcisa Overall, born 1816, died 1875, married Jackson Overall of Dekalb C o., Tenn. Seven children, all dead.
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[NI7968] Asbury Overall (1820 - 1901) married Lucy Smith Crutchfield (1823-1901 ). He was "admitted on trial" as a Methodist minister in 1843 and preach ed in Cumberland and Lebanon districts until 1849. But Lucy disapprov ed of his "calling" and he became a planter on land they purchased near Fr anklin. The Civil War destroyed their livelihood and the newly freed slav es stayed on the property without being able to provide for themselve s. To pay expenses, the land was gradually sold off. Only two of their chi ldren married, the others remaining to support their parents. The childr en were Robert, Claude, Mary Lassie, Watson, Nancy Allen ("Allie") and Mat tie Love.

From http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aihbt/profiles/overall.html
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From "The Overall Family"

Asbury Dow Overall, born 1820, died 1904, married Lucy Crutcherfield, ni ne children. Mr. Overall was a Methodist preacher.
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Asbury Dow Overall, 1820-1904, s/o Robert Overall, Rutherford Co., TN
Posted by: Phyllis Winthurst (ID *****6594) Date: November 19, 2003 at 08: 19:32
of 198


His obituary from the Christian Advocate (Nashville), June 8, 1905:

Rev. Asbury D. Overall was born in Rutherford County, Tenn., July 2, 182 0. He professed saving faith in Christ in early boyhood, and united with t he Methodists. He was licensed to preach by the Quarterly Conference of St one's River Circuit, Tennessee Conference, January 10, 1843, Robert L. And rews being the presiding elder. He entered the traveling connection in you ng manhood, and served six years. He retired on account of the ill heal th of his wife, and became a true and faithful local preacher. He was orda ined deacon November 8, 1846, by Bishop Andrew, and elder on November 7, 1 846 by Bishop Paine. He often supplied a charge when his services were nee ded, and kept regular preaching appointments as long as he was able. He w as a worthy classmate in the Conference of such men as Revs. A. H. Reams a nd William Doss. In 1847, he was married to Miss Lucy A. Crutchfield, a hi ghly cultured and refined Christian woman. They reared a large family of c hildren, all of them Christians. Four survive him: W. C.; Lossie; Allie; a nd Mrs. Rev. J. T. Blackwood. Brother Overall was well-educated, deeply pi ous, a loving neighbor, an affectionate husband and father, true in all bu siness relations of his life. His life was clean -- the end peace. He di ed at his residence, near Franklin, Tenn., July 31, 1904 -- a shock of co rn ready for the garner.

P. A. Sowell

The Overall Family Forum http://genforum.genealogy.com/overall/messages/18 3.html posted by Phyllis Winthurst
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[NI7971] Abram Dow Overall, 1824-1847, s/o Robert Overall, Rutherford County, TN
Posted by: Phyllis Winthurst (ID *****6594) Date: November 19, 2003 at 08: 31:26
of 198

The first obituary appeared in the Nashville Christian Advocate, October 1 5, 1847:

A YOUNG MINISTER CALLED TO HIS REWARD

We received a letter a few days since announcing the death of the R ev. A. D. Overall. He was transferred last fall to the Arkansas Conferenc e, and was returning on a visit to his friends in Rutherford county, in th is State. He died at Dr. W. A. Moody's, in Dickson county. Our corresponde nt assures us that every attention was given to him at Mrs. Coleman's at w hose house he was ill. By Dr. Moody's attention he was growing better, a nd attempted to ride to the Dr.'s house, which threw him into a conjesti ve chill, which he did not survive. He died on Friday, Oct. 1st.


The second obituary appeared in the Nashville Christian Advocate, Decemb er 17, 1847:

"Well done thou good and faithful servant. Thou hast been faithf ul over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things; enter th ou unto the joys of thy Lord."

What a heart-cheering thing it must be to the pilgrim of earth, w ho has left the shores of mortality to receive his reward at the han ds of a just and an eternal God; to receive the salutation contained in t he lines above quoted. And how pure must be the being to which such a salu tation is given. The life of such an one must have been as spotless as vir tue itself. Such a being as this we have great reason to hope was our belo ved brother, A. D. Overall, whose death we are called upon to announc e. He was born in Rutherford county, Tenn., Oct. 9th, 1824. He professed r eligion and joined the Methodist E. Church in 1837, from which time he liv ed apious and exemplary christian. He joined the Tennessee Conference in 1 846, and was thence transferred to the Arkansas Conference, in which he sp ent the first and only year of his itinerant life. On a visit to his fathe r, who resides in Rutherford county, Tenn., he was taken ill and call ed at the residence of a Mrs. Coleman, where he remained until his heal th so far recovered as to enable him to continue his homeward journey. Imm ediately after his departure he was taken with a conjestive chill which te rminated his earthly career. He was enabled, however, to reach the hou se of his physician, which was some miles distant, where he remained and w as treated very kindly until death released him from his sufferings. Her e, although he was called upon to die in a distant land, far from home, a nd no one to soothe his dying pillow except strangers, he was never hea rd to murmur, and gave evidence to all around him that he was a child of G od, and expected an eternal reward beyond the tomb. Thus cied our young br other in the bloom of life, ere the chilly blast of age had blown upon hi m. He has left behind an aged father, and many relatives to mourn his unti mely end; but we would say to them, weep not, for your loss is his etern al gain. His happy spirit has fled away to the glory land, where it now vi es around the throne of God, in company with angels, and in the resurrecti on morn, although his body now lies beneath the clod in a distant lan d, he shall come forth, and mortality shall put on immortality, and you sh all see him again. Then friends weep not, but endeavor to follow the brig ht example of your young relative, so that you may hereafter consider t he distant land to which he was called by his heavenly Father, his untime ly end, and his happy exit from earth, we can truly say the with poet,

Away from his home and the friends of his youth,
He hastened, the hearld of mercy and truth;
For the sake of his Lord and to seek for the lost,
Soon, alas! was his fall, but he died at his post,

John Brooks

From Overall Family Forum http://genforum.genealogy.com/overall/messages/1 85.html posted by Phyllis Winthurst
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[NI7975] Lucy Smith Crutchfield Overall, w/o A. D. Overall, 1824 - 1901
Posted by: Phyllis Winthurst (ID *****6594) Date: November 19, 2003 at 08: 26:09
of 198


From the Nashville Christian Advocate, January 16, 1902:

The subject of this brief memoir was born in Wilson County, Tenn., April 2 7, 1824. Her maiden name was Lucy Smith Crutchfield. In the year 1847 s he was married to Rev. A. D. Overall who was once a member of the Tenness ee Conference. They resided in Wilson County, until the year 1880, when th ey removed to Williamson County. They located near White's Chapel, about t hree miles from Franklin, where the remaining members of the family sti ll live, and from which home the wife and mother passed to her reward Octo ber 25, 1901. Sister Overall was much above the average worman, both in na tural endowment and culture. She was worthy of praise in all the relatio ns of life. Husband and children rise up and call her blessed. For many ye ars she was a patient sufferer, resigned and cheerful. She professed relig ion in early life, and was a true Christian and devoted Methodist. Ma ny a wary itinerant found rest and refreshment under her friendly roof. H er husband always loved the work of the ministry, and one of her daughte rs is now the wife of Rev. J. T. Blackwood, an honored member of the Tenne ssee Conference. She was a life member of the Worman's Missionary Socie ty of White's Chapel. Having served her generation according to the Wi ll of God, she has fallen on sleep. She rests from her labors, and her wor ks do follow her, while her memory is as ointment poured forth. "Blessed a re the dead which die in the Lord."

T. B. Fisher

From Overall Family Forum http://genforum.genealogy.com/overall/messages/1 84.html posted by Phyllis Winghurst
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[NI8091] Katheryn Grace Russell (a lawyer and eventually judge in the State of Cali fornia) changed her name legally to Kapsy
Email Correspondence - Priscilla Fanning 23 Feb 2004
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From Rossmoor News, Walnut Creek, CA Wednesday 13 April 2005
http://www.rossmoornews.com/articles/2005/04/13/news/obituaries/obits%206.txt

KAPSY ROOT

Kapsy Root, 85, died March 28 of a heart attack.

Born in Kuling, China to medical Methodist missionary parents, she lived in Shanghai, Nanking, Wuhu, Soochow, and Changzhou, where her father founded a hospital.

At age 16, she came to the U.S. where she graduated high school in Evanston, Ill. She attended Rockford College in Illinois and law school at USC.

She began her law career in 1947 with two years at a private practice in Los Angeles and five years with the Federal Bureau of Reclamation in Sacramento. She also spent 25 years as an administrative law judge for the California Unemployment Insurance Board in Sacramento.

She married Charles Root in 1956 and retired to Rossmoor in 1980 with her husband.

She enjoyed bridge, dancing, travel, photography and was active in many organizations in Rossmoor including the Camera Club, International Club, Dixieland Jazz Club, Chinese-American Association of Rossmoor, Democrats of Rossmoor, and Rossmoor Unitarian Universalist Society.

She is survived by her husband Charles; nieces; nephews; and their children. No services are scheduled.
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[NI8093] Died in her 30's (M.C. Harrison conversation 29 June 2005)
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[NI8158] THE 1900 CENSUS of GIBSON COUNTY TENNESSEE DISTRICT N O. 21 P.O. DYER, TN
TRANSCRIBED BY JACKIE ISBELL JOHNSTON
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NAME RELATION PERSONAL DESCRIPTI ON CHILDREN NATIVITY OCCUPA TION Months NoAttendedSchool EDUCATION OWNERSH IP OF HOME
MARIT AL YEARS CHILD FATHER MOTH ER SPE AK OWN FREE FARM FARM
Race Sex Birth AGE STAT US MARRIED #Born LIVING POB POB P OB Employed (In Months) Read Write ENGLI SH RENT MORTG HOUSE SCH #
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180 Overall, B. W. Head W M Sept 18 52 47 M 30 TN TN TN Journ alist Editor yes yes y es O? ? ?
Cora E. Wife W F Jan 18 62 38 M 30 ? 2 TN TN TN yes yes yes
Corley Son W M June 18 ?? ? S TN TN TN At Scho ol ? ? ?
Laurie ? Daughter W F July 18 ?? ? S TN TN TN At Scho ol ? ? ?
Walter V. Boarder W M Oct 18 77 22 S TN TN TN C --------r yes yes yes
Lee, Frank Boarder W M Mar 18 66 44 S WA MD MD C ------or yes yes yes

Note that B.W. Overall was the Census Taker for Dyer "Outside Town"
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[NI8167] There were two "Latt" Overalls, "Big Latt" and "Little Latt" accordi ng to Marguerite Harrison.

[NI8173] THE 1900 CENSUS of GIBSON COUNTY TENNESSEE DISTRICT N O. 21 P.O. DYER, TN
TRANSCRIBED BY JACKIE ISBELL JOHNSTON
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NAME RELATION PERSONAL DESCRIPTI ON CHILDREN NATIVITY OCCUPA TION Months NoAttendedSchool EDUCATION OWNERSH IP OF HOME
MARIT AL YEARS CHILD FATHER MOTH ER SPE AK OWN FREE FARM FARM
Race Sex Birth AGE STAT US MARRIED #Born LIVING POB POB P OB Employed (In Months) Read Write ENGLI SH RENT MORTG HOUSE SCH #
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110 Baird, John Head W M Jan 18 64 36 M TN TN TN Farm er yes yes ? O ? ?
Sallie Wife W F Sept 18 69 30 M ? ? ? TN TN TN yes ? ?
Lila Daughter W F ??? 18 88 12 S TN TN TN At Scho ol ? ? ?
Willie Son W M Oct 18 90 9 S TN TN TN At Scho ol ? ? ?
Baird, Jonnie Son W M Sept 18 93 7 S TN TN TN ? ? ?
Inman, Cain HiredMan B M Apr 18 ?? ? ? TN TN TN F arm Labor ? ? ?
Orton, Bud B M Unk 18 70 30 MS MS MS F arm Labor ? ? ?
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[NI8175] Margaret Fesmire, 84, of Dyer. Services at 10:30 a.m. Friday at First Unit ed Methodist Church. Karnes & Son Funeral Home.

From 5 Aug 2004 Memphis Commercial Appeal (online)
http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/archive/0,1426,MCA_561_08-05-2004,00.html
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MARGARET BAIRD FESMIRE

Dyer-Funeral services for Margaret Baird Fesmire, 84, were held on Frida y, August 6, 2004 at Dyer First United Methodist Church with Reverend D r. T.J. Wesley presiding assisted by Reverend Paul F. Douglass. Burial w as in Oakwood Cemetery. Karnes & Son Funeral Home was in charge of final a rrangements.

Mrs Fesmire, a housewife, died on Monday, August 2, 2004 at Milan Gener al Hospital. She was a member of Dyer First United Methodist Church. She s erved as president of the State VFW Auxiliary. She was elected the direct or for the VFW Auxiliary national Children's Home in Eaton Rapids, Michig an where she was in charge of five states: Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississsip pi, Missouri, and Tennessee.

They called her the Campbell's Soup lady for collecting more labels than a nyone else, and because of her collecting the labels, the home was ab le to acquire a new van.

Her husband, Homer Fesmire precedes her in death.

Her two sons, Gary Fesmire and Wilson Fesmire, both of Dyer, one brothe r, Robert Baird of Dyer, five grandchildren and five great grandchildren s urvive her.

From Aug 2004 Tri-City Reporter
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[NI8194] L.L. Davidson had established Davidson Produce Company in 1890 in Dyer, a nd after his sudden death in 1917, Asa returned from service to run the bu siness. He built the company's banana rooms, and also installed Dyer's fir st ice plant, and the first and only movie theater.

From "A History of the Dyer, Tennessee Community", page 200
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1900 Census Gibson Co. District 21

100 Davidson, Lucien Head W M Sept 18 64 35 M 15 TN TN TN Pro duce Dealer yes yes y es O F H
Mattie Wife W F Mar 18 65 35 M 15 4 4 TN TN TN yes yes yes
Blanche Daughter W F Sept 18 84 15 S TN TN TN At Scho ol ? ? ?
Lillian Daughter W F Ma? 18 8? 12 S TN TN TN At Scho ol ? ? ?
Asa Son W M Feb 18 ?? ? S TN TN TN At Scho ol ? ? ?
Lucille Daughter W F Jan 18 95 5 S TN TN TN
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[NI8204] A picture in "A History of the Dyer Tennessee Community" on page 21 sho ws "Ephraim Cleveland Davidson ... with his second wife, Lou Banks Davidso n."

[NI8209] The marriages and dates given by Sharen Neal are confusing. Children of Ch loe Garrison appear to bracket those of Mattie Ej McDermon.
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1900 Census Gibson Co. District 21
101 Davidson, W. J. Head W M J?? 18 6? ? M TN TN TN Mer--- -- yes ? ?
Cloe Wife W F ??? 18 ?? ? M ? ? ? TN TN TN ? ? ?
A---n Son W M Aug 18 ?? ? S TN TN TN S u-------- yes ? ?
Cella Daughter W F ??? 18 8? ? ? TN TN TN At Scho ol yes yes yes
Arthur Son W M Oct 18 8? ? ? TN TN TN At Scho ol yes yes yes
Howard Son W M ??? 18 ?? ? ? TN TN TN
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[NI8270] Mrs. Overall was a nurse for Dr. John Jackson at the Dyer Clinic. Aft er J. D. died, she married widower Glen Gladhill.

Interview with M. C. Harrison March 2004.
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[NI8304] 1880 US Census:
Census Place:Dyer Station, Gibson, Tennessee
Source:FHL Film 1255255 National Archives Film T9-1255 Page 52 8D
RelationSexMarrRaceAgeBirthplace
Robert L. OVERALLSelfMMW26TN
Occ:Farmer-TeacherFa: TNMo: TN
Christine E. OVERALLWifeFMW34TN
Occ:Keep HouseFa: TNMo: TN
Mary W. OVERALLDauFSW1TN
Fa: TNMo: TN
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It appears that Mary W. may not have been Rober Lee / Minnie's daughter. A pparently there
was another Robtert L. Overall in the vicinity?

[NI8309] http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/census/1900/1900-21outside.txt
1900 Gibson County, TN, District 21 Census
Transcribed by Jackie Isbell Johnston (jjohns1873@aol.com)
Additional comments and or interpretation are in parenthesis.
It appears that census takers interpreted the Farm Schedule Column in vari ous ways.
The town of Dyer, TN is divided into four wards; and, a fifth part
for those who lived outside of town.
This would include the Currie Community which is at the end of this distri ct.

OUTSIDE OF TOWN CENSUS TAKER: B. W. OVERA LL DATE: 9 JUNE 1900

NAME RELATION PERSONAL DESCRIPTI ON CHILDREN NATIVITY OCCUPATI ON EDUCATION OWNERSHIP OF HOME
MARITAL YEARS CHILD CHI LD FATHER MOTHER ATTEND ED OWN OR FREE OR FARM OR FARM
Race Sex Birth A ge STATUS MARRIED # BORN LIVING POB POB P OB SCHOOL(mos) Read Write SpeakEng RENT MORG H OUSE SCH#
165 Overall, John N. Head W M Jan 18 82 18 M 3 TN TN TN Farm er yes yes yes R F 1 70
Josie N. E. Wife W F Feb 18 79 21 M 3 2 1 TN MO MO yes y es yes
Clarence B. Son W M July 1899 10/ 12 S TN TN TN
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[NI8319] THE 1900 CENSUS of GIBSON COUNTY TENNESSEE DISTRICT N O. 21 P.O. DYER, TN
TRANSCRIBED BY JACKIE ISBELL JOHNSTON
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NAME RELATION PERSONAL DESCRIPTI ON CHILDREN NATIVITY OCCUPA TION Months NoAttendedSchool EDUCATION OWNERSH IP OF HOME
MARIT AL YEARS CHILD FATHER MOTH ER SPE AK OWN FREE FARM FARM
Race Sex Birth AGE STAT US MARRIED #Born LIVING POB POB P OB Employed (In Months) Read Write ENGLI SH RENT MORTG HOUSE SCH #
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110 Baird, John Head W M Jan 18 64 36 M TN TN TN Farm er yes yes ? O ? ?
Sallie Wife W F Sept 18 69 30 M ? ? ? TN TN TN yes ? ?
Lila Daughter W F ??? 18 88 12 S TN TN TN At Scho ol ? ? ?
Willie Son W M Oct 18 90 9 S TN TN TN At Scho ol ? ? ?
Baird, Jonnie Son W M Sept 18 93 7 S TN TN TN ? ? ?
Inman, Cain HiredMan B M Apr 18 ?? ? ? TN TN TN F arm Labor ? ? ?
Orton, Bud B M Unk 18 70 30 MS MS MS F arm Labor ? ? ?
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[NI8338] Mary Overall was a missionary in China for the Methodist Episcopal Chur ch South, sponsored by the Dyer M.E. Church. Margaret Baird Fesmire, her n eice, remembers that she later maried twice, once to a man named "Finus so mething", and moved to Nashville. Gibson County Marriage records show: OVE RALL, MARY D.DRUMMOND, F. C. 1934
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[NI8342] Is this A. H. Overall the same as Amelia K. Overall who married George Was hington Robinson? Age is about right. Location is about right. Probl em is that Amelia's tombstone "Amelia wife of G.W. Robinson born Nov 10, 1 848 died July 13, 1888" is in Yorkville Cemetery nearby a A. H. Overall "A .H. Overall Aged 72 Years".

[NI8343] 1900 Federal Census Gibson Co., TN District 21
http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/data/tn+index+430867583720+F
172 Wilson, Jno. W. Head W M Jan 18 51 49 M TN TN TN D ry Goods Mer yes yes y es O F H
Mattie J. Wife W F Dec 18 59 40 M 6 4 TN TN TN ? ? ?
John W. Son W M Apr 18 83 17 S TN TN TN At Scho ol yes yes yes
Vance Son W M Nov 18 84 15 S TN TN TN At Scho ol yes yes yes
Iva Daughter W F May 18 86 14 S TN TN TN At Scho ol yes yes yes
Horace Son W M Jan 18 90 10 S TN TN TN At Scho ol yes yes yes
Cox, Amanda C. MoInLaw W F Jan 18 40 60 W 9 5 TN NC NC yes yes yes
Annetta SisInLaw W F Oct 18 75 24 S Caroli na TN ? ? y es yes yes
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[NI8357] Rice Boucher ran a barbershop with a Mr. Carroll on main Street. His daug hter Peggy married the son of J. D. Overall who ran another barbershop aro und the corner on College Street. I used both shops and barbers many tim es as a young man. J.W.H.
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[NI8364] 1800 Tax Lists of Montgomery County Tennessee
Capt. James Boyd's Co., by Haydon Wells

Hutcheson, Thos.
Hutcheson, James
Hutcheson, William

From http://www.tngenweb.org/montgomery/taxlist1800.html
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1820 Census Montgomery County, Tennessee
Key: The eleven numbers under the males and females columns stand for ag es of the family members, in order from left to right:

Numbers in males column 0-10 years, 10-16 years, 16-18 years, 18-26 year s, 26-45 years, 45- & up. Numbers in the female column 0-10 years, 10- 16 years, 16-26 years, 26-45 years, 45 & up years.

Hutcheson, James 021301 12000

(Males: 2 each 10-16, 1 each 16-18, 3 each 18-26, and 1 45 & up.
Females: 1 each 0-10, 2 each 10-16)

From http://www.tngenweb.org/montgomery/hlcensus20.html
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An Enumeration of free white male persons in the county of Montgome ry . . . 1841

Montgomery County, Tennessee
County Court Minutes Book 21, pages

Enumeration of the free white male persons in the county of Montgomery w ho were citizens of the same on the 1st day of January 1841 Each of whi ch is as nearly as practicable attached to the civil district to which th ey belonged at that time as may be seen by examining the following page s. (The number following the name is just a running talley in the distric t. JWH)

District No. 6
Hutchinson, T. G. 110


District No. 10
Hutchinson, N. O. 52
Hutchinson, James 53

From http://www.tngenweb.org/montgomery/1841voters.html
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[NI8368] 1840 Census Montgomery County, Tennessee
Key: The thirteen numbers under the males and females columns stand for ag es of the family members, in order from left to right:

0-5 years, 5-10 years, 10-15 years, 15-20 years, 20-30 years, 30-40 year s, 40-50 years, 50-60 years, 60-70 years, 70-80 years, 80-90 years, 90-1 00 years, over 100

Hutcherson, Sarah 0 00101101

(Males: None Females: 1 each 10-15, 1 each 20-30, 1 each 30-40, 1 ea ch 50-60)

Also listed in Montgomery Co. is a Hutcherson, T.G. with 1 male 30-40

From http://www.tngenweb.org/montgomery/HKcensus.html
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[NI8372] William T. (James, John Hutchison) was born 29 December 1798, [Bond Count y, Illinois, Union Grove Cemetery Records. William's birth and death date s, and his wife Mary's death date are from readings of their stones.] t he first of James and Sarah's children born in Montgomery County, Tennesse e. He was at a very impressionable age during the time his parents were in volved in ensuring the success of the struggling Cumberland Presbyterian d enomination in their frontier community, and became involved in the wo rk of the church at an early age. His parents must have been very pleas ed when William announced he wanted to enter the ministry.

As a young minister of the Cumberland Presbyterian faith he served a circu it that included a part of the territory of Missouri and parts of weste rn Kentucky. It was in serving this circuit, he met and married Mary Cl ay Dawson of Trigg County, their marriage taking place on 16 December 182 5. Mary Clay was born at Roaring Springs, Trigg County, Kentucky, on 2 M ay 1805, the daughter of Thomas Dawson, a veteran of the Revolutionary Wa r, and Mary Ann Clay, daughter of Dr. Henry Clay. [Not Henry Clay, the ora tor and politician. Mary Dawson's mother and the famous Henry Clay were t he children of first cousins.] They remained in Trigg County, Kentucky f or twenty-three years where in addition to his ministerial duties Willi am operated a small farm.

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William and Mary became the parents of ten sons and two daughters. All, ex cept their last son, were born in Trigg County, Kentucky. The Civil War pe riod was especially hard on the family. All eight of their surviving so ns were the right age for military service. Of them, five are document ed to having served - four with the Union and one with the Confederacy. Th ree sons who served with the Union were given disability discharges midw ay through their enlistment terms, and the son who served with the Confede racy died just weeks after his enlistment. The couple's daughter Sarah A nn died in childbirth during this same Civil War period.

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Mary Clay (Dawson) Hutchison died on 23 November 1863 and was buried at t he Union Grove CP Church Cemetery. William died on the family farm near Gr eenville in Bond County, Illinois on 28 September 1867 having preach ed in the state for nearly twenty years. He was buried next to Mary at t he Union Grove Cemetery.

[Source: The Hutchison Chronicles, Some Stories of the Nine Generatio ns of Descendants of John and Margaret Hutchison, Prince William and Shena ndoah Counties, Virginia and Montgomery County, Tennessee. Compiled by Phy llis (Rasmusen) Winthurst. Tucson, Arizona: Printed & bound by AlphaGraphi cs Printshops of the Future, 1998.]

From http://www.cumberland.org/hfcpc/minister/HutchiWT.htm
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[NI8373] 1840 Census Montgomery County, Tennessee
Key: The thirteen numbers under the males and females columns stand for ag es of the family members, in order from left to right:

0-5 years, 5-10 years, 10-15 years, 15-20 years, 20-30 years, 30-40 year s, 40-50 years, 50-60 years, 60-70 years, 70-80 years, 80-90 years, 90-1 00 years, over 100

Hutcherson, N.O. 123001 100101

(Males: 1 each 0-5, 2 each 5-10, 3 each 10-15, 1 each 30-40.
Females: 1 each 0-5, 1 each 15-20, 1 each 30-40)

From http://www.tngenweb.org/montgomery/HKcensus.html
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An Enumeration of free white male persons in the county of Montgome ry . . . 1841

Montgomery County, Tennessee
County Court Minutes Book 21, pages

Enumeration of the free white male persons in the county of Montgomery w ho were citizens of the same on the 1st day of January 1841 Each of whi ch is as nearly as practicable attached to the civil district to which th ey belonged at that time as may be seen by examining the following pages.

District No. 10
Hutchinson, N. O. 52
Hutchinson, James 53

From http://www.tngenweb.org/montgomery/1841voters.html
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[NI8397] RAMEY, HUTCHISON
Searching for children of Elijah RAMEY b ca 1775 Shenandoah Co., Va., d. a bt 1830 Montgomery Co., Tn., m Margarite " Peggy" PERRY 12 Apr 1797 Shenan doah Co., Va. Elijah purchased land from Edward Jett in 1801 in Montgome ry Co., Tn. Elijah is on the 1820 census in Montgomery Co., Tn with 5 mal es & 4 females in the household. Know of three children; 1.William P. RAM EY b 8 Dec 1799 Shenandoah Co., Va., d 18 Oct 1853 Johnson Co., ILL., m Ma rgaret HUTCHISON (Dau of James HUTCHISN & Sarah THOMAS) 8 May 1822 Montgom ery Co., Tn. 2. Elizabeth RAMEY b ca 1805 Tn m. a GRIME. 3. Nancy RAM EY b ca 1808 Tn. m. John HOLT.
>Sue Feild
suefeild@jps.net
Submitted on Thu Apr 27 09:17:06 MDT 2000

From http://www.tngenweb.org/montgomery/queries/montaug00.html
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[NI8400] Signed petition to "resume former relations with the federal governmen t" in Murfreesboro

Phyllis Winthurst internet correspondence March 2004
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Enlisted in Co. A, 24th TN Infantry (Confederate) Jan 1863

Phyllis Winthurst internet correspondence March 2004
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[NI8411] Robert Espey, born in 1727, came to America while young. He married Rach el Bell in Chester, Pennsylvania in 1757, and they moved to Mecklenburg, N orth Carolina in 1770, where Robert served with a scouting party during t he Revolution. In 1780, he was among the pioneers on the Cumberland Riv er at Fort Nashborough. He was also granted land in 1784 and, not long aft er, he and a son (probably George) were killed by Indians. His five sons w ere James, Alexander, George, Robert and John

[NI8428] Mattie Love Overall (1864-1925), the youngest and liveliest of the daughte rs, married James Thomas Blackwood,a Methodist minister. An active suppo rt to her husband in his ministry, she also worked for women's rights a nd cared for their four daughters: Lillian, Lucy, Mattie Love and Allaiss e. We are fortunate to have some of Mattie Love's writings, including a lo vely poem.

From http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aihbt/profiles/overall.html
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[NI8429] The son James Thomas Blackwood was born November 19, 1857 in Wayne Count y, Tennessee. He remembered hearing the "guns of Shiloh " as a three-year -old. At the age of 14, he became a member of the Methodist Church and w as licensed to preach on May 14, 1878. Beginning as a Circuit Rider, he w as an active minister and Presiding Elder in Middle Tennessee for ov er 50 years. He retired in Monteagle where he continued to preach an annu al sermon to his former congregation at Merton Memorial Methodist Churc h. On the occasion of his 100th birthday, he was honored there as being t he longest serving minister in the Tennessee Conference. His first wife, a ctive supporter of his ministry and mother of their four daughters was Mat tie Love Overall (1864-1925). Their daughters were Lillian, Lucy, Mattie L ove, and Allaisie. His second wife, who cared for him in Monteagle for t he last thirty years of his life, was Clara Wooten.

From http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aihbt/profiles/blackwood.html
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[NI8443] The eldest son was known as "Honest John" Blackwood (1779-1864) for his in tegrity in business dealings, but in the 1840s a family scandal caused Jo hn Blackwood to move with his family from North Carolina to Tennessee. Mat tie Love Blackwood Peters explained:

My father's story is this: John Blackwood [his grandfather] had a nephew w ho wanted to borrow money so he could go into mercantile business. John si gned notes. The nephew came to John's home one night and asked to borr ow a horse to go on brief rest from his hard work. He even asked for the l oan of John's watch. The nephew left and was never heard from again. Jo hn had to pay all creditors. He seems to have lost everything. Feeling dis graced, he moved out of North Carolina to Tennessee. Father told me th is on his 90th birthday. He was too proud to tell us before.

John's sales of land and property began in 1841 and continued ev en after the move to Pinhook, Wayne County, Tennessee. His wife was Jeanet te Reid Bradshaw(?-1794) and their children were Elizabeth, Margaret, Gide on, Ann, Susan, James T., Mary Ann and Isaiah. A second wife may have be en Elizabeth Clower.

From http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aihbt/profiles/blackwood.html
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[NI8452] James Blackwood (1732-1810), part of a Scots-Irish Presbyterian group of i mmigrants from Ireland, arrived in the Pennsylvania Colony about 1741. T he group remained in that area of Pennsylvania for only a short time, d ue to the French and Indian Wars. They migrated into the Virginia colo ny in a winter so cold that they drove their teams and wagons down froz en rivers. But they could not stay in Virginia because their religious be liefs were not tolerated by the established Anglican church of that colon y. The Blackwoods lived in Mecklenburg County of North Carolina, later mov ing to Lincoln County near King's Mountain. His wife was Anna Thompson (?- 1839), the daughter of Gideon Thompson and Jeanette (Reid ?). The childr en of James and Anna were John, Gideon, Margaret, Anna, and Jennet. [Bil ly Jean Horne of Mahtomedi, MN has generously shared her own Blackwood fam ily research with us.]

From http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aihbt/profiles/blackwood.html
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[NI8527] William and Eliza entered into a marriage contract whereby each would reta in whatever property they had when they married should one of them d ie or the marriage fail. Even though the Rutherford County marriage recor ds call her Miss Eliza Earley, family sources say she was a widow with sev eral children but I have never been able to find her on a census.

Phyllis Winthurst internet correspondence March 2004
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[NI8528] Susan, William's fourth wife, declares she was married nine years on the 1 900 Texas census - it was crossed through on the census since she was a wi doe. If this is the length of her marriage to William Milliam it would ha ve meant William died in ca. 1881 in either Marion or Independence Coun ty at the age of 78.

Phyllis Winthurst March 2004
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[NI8554] I have a copy (not a very good one) of the marriage record for Robert Houston and Martha Work. No initial and no ther name is given than "Robert Houston" for the groom. For the bride, it does not have an "e" on the end of Work. There is a letter written by Robert's son Christopher Houston (1744-1837) which states the name of his father as Robert Houston, again, no mention of "John" being part of the name. Christopher continues and says that his grandfather was named Christopher. Regrettably, he did not elaborate further. There is no indication that Robert Houston ever used the name "John" in any of the letters written by the family during Christopher Houston's lifetime. In a few of Christopher's letters he mentions the "Work's" but he does not add an "e" to the end of the name.

No document has ever surfaced which gives "John" as Robert Houston's fist name. None! I have found several "genealogies" which use this as a way to tie our Houston line to the Sam Houston (Texas) line. Not one of those "researchers" have ever been able to provide any form of documentation whatsoever. DNA samples from the two Houston lines (Sam of Texas and our Christopher 1744) show that although there may be a connection, it would be earlier than either family entered the United States.

There are several of us researching this Robert Houston and there are very few documents which have survived or surfaced.

Email from Dan Woodruff 15 Feb 2007
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[NI8555] I have a copy (not a very good one) of the marriage record for Robert Houston and Martha Work. No initial and no ther name is given than "Robert Houston" for the groom. For the bride, it does not have an "e" on the end of Work. There is a letter written by Robert's son Christopher Houston (1744-1837) which states the name of his father as Robert Houston, again, no mention of "John" being part of the name. Christopher continues and says that his grandfather was named Christopher. Regrettably, he did not elaborate further. There is no indication that Robert Houston ever used the name "John" in any of the letters written by the family during Christopher Houston's lifetime. In a few of Christopher's letters he mentions the "Work's" but he does not add an "e" to the end of the name.

No document has ever surfaced which gives "John" as Robert Houston's fist name. None! I have found several "genealogies" which use this as a way to tie our Houston line to the Sam Houston (Texas) line. Not one of those "researchers" have ever been able to provide any form of documentation whatsoever. DNA samples from the two Houston lines (Sam of Texas and our Christopher 1744) show that although there may be a connection, it would be earlier than either family entered the United States.

There are several of us researching this Robert Houston and there are very few documents which have survived or surfaced.

Email from Dan Woodruff 15 Feb 2007
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[NI8560] Louis' name appears on numerous records from the J. W. Currey funeral ho me as the "order given by" person. He is also the "Charge to" person for h is mother and his brother James B.

Apparently neither he nor his brother James ever married.

[NI8561] DYERSBURG STATE GAZETTE FRIDAY AFTERNOON FEBRUARY 11, 1916

LOCAL AND PERSONAL--J. T. WARREN of Humboldt, left for home yesterday aft er being the guest of his sister, MRS. MARY CARNE and nephew, MAJOR CARNE.

http://www.rootsweb.com/~tndyer/newspapers/gazette46.html
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[NI8569] Note from web site "From Descendants of William Whitledge" http://familytr eemaker.genealogy.com/users/l/a/k/PHYLLIS-A-LAKE/GENE2-0005.html?Welcome=1083089597

Notes for John Overall , Jr:
He is our John Overall born about 1729, Overall Book p 251 . Overall Bo ok had him married to Marie Christina Forman but it has later been shown t hat she was married to his brother William Overall, born in1727.
On Feb. 6,1992 Mrs. Eudine M. Britton (who wrote the Newsletter "Overal ls All Over"), wrote to me "You stated that you are decended from JOHN OVE RALL-FRANCE WHITLEDGE family on page 251 in Mrs Kiger's book. While editi ng the newsletter I attemped to show lineage of my line through a JOHN OVE RALL who married MARIA CHRISTINA FROMAN (see her page 13). She had trac ed our line from the JOHN on page 13, but just within the last two month s, some of our OVERALL family and I have Verified that our line is throu gh WILLIAM, a son of JOHN on page 11, rather than JOHN OVERALL JR. (4e .) p. 11. This was verified by original records showing that WILLIAM was t he only OVERALL in the early records of Augusta, Frederick and Shenando ah Counties. Although we have not found a marriage record between him a nd MARIA CHRISTINA FROMAN, her name the FROMAN name and other of her kin a re carried on throughout several succeeding generations." Mrs Britton al so wrote "Mrs Kiger and I had discussed OVERALLS before she died. She w as Registrar of the Chief John Ross Chapter DAR when I joined through t he OVERALL line. She remarked often that when she first began compiling h er book, she did not document her notes and regretted it. One sad thi ng is that CARTMELL and other respected historians also took the line thro ugh JOHN. It's difficult to correct so much misinformation." John Overa ll married Frances Whitledge in Virginia and came to Kentucky (accordi ng to a disposition given by John and William Overall in 1807), they ca me to Bullitt Co Ky in 1780.
"The 1786 Tithabie list taken by Isaac Cox . . . .Included John Overall, s on William, Negroes Ben and Nell - total 4" (Ben and Nell were negroes nam ed in the will of William Whitledge in 1782 to his daughter, Frances Whitl edge Overall, wife of John Overall.

Will of John Overall Filed 7 Jan, 1822 Shepherdsville Bullitt Co KY. Bo ok B (1829-1833), page 295 Wills. Daughter Partheny received all real a ne personal estate Except house built by son Whitledge and garden and tru ck patch which he is to retain. If Partheny marries, she is to receive 1 /9 of estate, except the land which shall upon the marriage or dea th of my daughter Partheny immediately appertain to my son Whitledge . . . and as my daughters Fanny and Catherine deceased without issue, except o ne shilling each (?). His Negroes, Nell, Luke, and James) to have freed om at death of Partheny. Younger ones to have freedom at age 25. N ot to be sold out of family- - but if they are purchaser is bound to "lea rn them to read the new testament". Son Robert continues to have privile ge "to make suger on land on South Side of path leading to Garrison's o ld mill". He is to "bore trees with one inch oger and take care of the ca mp but not abuse it," Dated 5 Dec. 1816 /S/ 16 Dec 1816
John Overall
Codicil to above 16 March 1821: Son Thomas and daughter Sally now decease d. No part of his estate to reach hands of Leonard Burch nor Darkey Vardem an "because their recent conduct forfeits his esteem and confidence" Willi am F. Hilton to serve in "room' of Benjamin Irwin as executor with son Whi tledge. (Irwin moving to Indiana Territory). Nell emancipated. John Overa ll
Witnesses: Joseph Irwin, William Irwin and William F. Hilton
(Leonard Burch was widower of Sally; Darky Vardeman was widow of Thomas Ov erall) Note: Wife Frances was not mentioned. Deceased prior to 1816?)
Whitledge Overall, Robert Overall, and John, son of their brother Willi am Overall, appeared together in court to file their father's will.
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From The Overall Family Forum http://genforum.genealogy.com/overall/messag es/71.html posted by Eudine Britton

OVERALL-WHITLEDGE Family
Posted by: Eudine M. Britton Date: August 30, 2000 at 06:01:54

John Overall (b.c.1735 VA - d bef 1821 KY) was married to Frances Whitledg e. John was the youngest son of JOHN OVERALL and Mary ELLIOTT of Prince Wi lliam, Co. VA. John was very young (about 7 years old) when his father di ed (in 1742/43) and he was left in the guardianship of his father's brothe r, Nathaniel. He was to be put to school "till 14" and then to be "ce pt to work till 18" and then be of an age to act for himself. John was mar ried to Frances Whitledge and they and their family were on the Tax Li st in Prince William until they began selling their property in 1763. By 1 779 they signed a release of their land to William Grant of King Georg e, VA and in 1780 are listed in what is now Bullitt Co., KY. He and his fa mily became pioneer settlers of Kentucky Will send documentation if you wi ll send me an e-mail or U. S. Mail address. No charge of course. Eudine Br itton.

Re: OVERALL-WHITLEDGE Family - Kentucky
Posted by: Jeffrey Buchanan (ID *****2517) Date: May 24, 2002 at 11:12:
In Reply to: OVERALL-WHITLEDGE Family by Eudine M. Britton of 198


Hi Eudine,
I have been researching the Overalls of Bullitt, Nelson and Hardin Counti es in Kentucky, the same as your message. I've been scouring the census a nd other records for all I can find.

I'm looking for the descendants of John and Frances Overall, and there a re 11 children that I have located, and they appear to have been in Kentuc ky. But the majority of the Overalls remaining in this area seem to be fr om their son, William and his son, John. (I keep my file at gencircl es if you want to see what I have: "Buchanan, Evans and Saufley Famili es of KY" )

I do see some Overalls appearing in early 1800s in Hardin, Nelson county a rea that I have no idea who they are.

I was wondering if you had done any research on the descendants of John Ov erall and Frances Whitledge.

- Jeffrey Buchanan

Re: OVERALL-WHITLEDGE Family - Kentucky
Posted by: Eudine M. Britton (ID *****1420) Date: May 25, 2002 at 02:27: 44
In Reply to: Re: OVERALL-WHITLEDGE Family - Kentucky by Jeffrey Buchan an of 198


Dear Jeffrey: Yes, I have information on the John Overall - Frances Whitle dge family. That line, as you know, migrated from Prince William Co ., VA to the very early Kentucky counties you named. My Overall line is th rough
John's older brother William who left Prince William around the time of th eir father (John, Sr.)'s death in 1741/42. John did not leave Prince Willi am until he and Frances sold their property about 1779. William (my ancest or)
was willed only what we would call a "life estate" from his father John S r. Consequently, William moved into the
frontier lands of Virginia (which finally evolved into Frederick Co. and S henandoah Co., VA). There William
married Maria Christina Froman, daughter of Paul Froman and Elizabeth Hit e. Their descendants were in Tennessee (at French Lick - Fort Nashboroug h) by 1779 where sons of William and Maria Christina signed the Cumberla nd Compact at Fort Nashborough in 1779, In essence, one Overall brother (y our John - Frances Whitedge) were founders of the State of Kentucky and so ns of his older brother (my ancestor William - Maria
Christina) were founders of the State of Kentucky. I think that's neat! Eu dine Britton (eudgen1@bellsouth.net)
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[NI8633] Various sources have Maria married to John or to William Overall. Apparent ly today's best research indicates it was really William. The Froman na me is seen in descendents.
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I notice there is still conflicting information as to whether Maria Christ ina Froman married William Overall or John Overall, Jr. Could someone po st some documentation that sheds light on this controversy. Thanks so much

Gary E. Young

Dear Mr. Young,
You might care to read the correspondence I received in the THOM AS Forum from Phyllis Winthurst. I would suggest searching for her name a nd reading her correspondence in order.
She said that her research in Virginia confirms that William Overa ll married Maria Christina Froman and that as a result of her findings, Ov erall relatives hired a professional genealogist who confirmed her conclus ions.
If Nancy Overall did marry Joshua Thomas as is traditionally believe d, I am an Overall relative too.
Best wishes, Julie Voss

From the Overall Family Forum http://genforum.genealogy.com/overall/messag es/168.html
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To Phyllis Winthurst
Posted by: Julie Voss (ID *****2560) Date: October 03, 2002 at 15:00:
of 14559



Subject: Re: Thomas Genealogy

Dear Ms. Winthurst;
I noted with interest your article about the Thomas family of Davidson Co ., Tennessee. My family information tells me that my ancestor Sarah "Sall y" Thomas was the daughter of Joshua Thomas who may have died in the Knick ajack Expedition 13 September 1794. Do you know, is he the same Joshua Tho mas who married Nancy Overall, whose father is John Thomas? Our Joshua w as dead before the 1804 will that you mention.
Any advice you might offer would be welcome. Thanks, Julie

Re: To Phyllis Winthurst
Posted by: Phyllis Winthurst (ID *****6594) Date: November 02, 2002 at 11: 16:30
In Reply to: To Phyllis Winthurst by Julie Voss of 14559


Julie, Normally I don't check the GenForum unless I get a message I ha ve an answer to a query, but today I just happened to check the Thomas a nd Overall sites otherwise I'd never seen your query.

It is Overall tradition that this is the same Joshua who married Nancy Ove rall. I have never been able to locate a marriage record for her. I tell y ou this with a warning - the Overall tradition was that Susanna Thomas w ho married William Overall; Annie Thomas who married Nathaniel Overall a nd Joshua Thomas who married Nancy Overall were siblings - who married sib lings. It does happen often, but not in this case. Annie was the daught er of the William Thomas and his wife Catherine who remained in Shenando ah County; I'm not sure who the father was for Susannah, but I have a hun ch it was the William Overall and his wife Elizabeth who was in Davidson C ounty in 1798 (year he died) - they had a son Isaac and William Overall a nd Susannah named one of their sons Isaac Froman. As you have read, I fou nd the will that proved Joshua was the son of John Thomas, a very early se ttler at Ft. Nashborough.

Also, I don't know whether it was you or someone else who said they were d escended through William and Susannah through one of their minister son s. I don't believe they had any minister sons = especially not three.

Nathaniel Overall and his wife Annie were the ancestors of quite a numb er of ministers - sons and grandsons. "The History of Methodism in Tenness ee," by John B. M'Ferrin, D. D., 1871, speaks of the Overalls influen ce in the early church. "...A church was built at Overall's in 1813. The f irst camp-meeting was held in 1815. Nathaniel Overall, Rev. Nace Overal l, William Ramsey and William Bone were the first tenters. A few years lat er Rev. Abraham Overall ... Richard Floyd ... Mrs. Sallie Hutchison (not ed for her deep piety) ... were among the campers..." The William Ramsey m entioned was Nathaniel Overall's son-in-law who became a Methodist preache r. A further reference shows just how deeply they were involved, "...Overa ll's Camp-ground, twenty miles east of Windrow's was the appropriate na me of the place where for forty years or more, Robert Overall, Rev. Abr am Overall, Rev. Nace Overall, and their father, children and neighbors he ld their annual feast of the tabernacle....The influence of those named ab ove is yet felt where they lived long, useful lives. A number of the Overa lls became preachers. Abram, Nace, Asbury, Lorenzo, Nathaniel and John Wes ley, I believe are the principal names of the ministers among them, mo st of whom were members of the Tennessee Conference." pages 302-302

As I said earlier, William and Susannah Overall, as far as I know, did n ot have any minister sons. When William was killed at Dripping Spring in J anuary 1793, they had six children: William Froman; Isaac Hogland; Nathani el Hamilton; Elizabeth (md. William Martin who was also killed by Indians ); Wilson Lee, and Nancy (md. a Haney).

William, Nathaniel, and Nancy Overall supposedly had another brother in t he Nashborough settlements - a Robert who also was killed by the Indian s. These were all the children of William and Maria Christina Froman Overa ll - not John Overall and Maria Christina Froman. The early researchers d id a great job considering what they were able to access, but we now kn ow it was William, not John, who married Maria Christina. The John Overa ll who married the Whitledge was his brother, and that couple left Pr. Wil liam in the late 1780s and settled in Kentucky.

My only interest in doing the Overall research was my husband's great-gre at grandfather was a Nathaniel Overall Hutchison, son of James and Sarah ( Thomas) Hutchison. Sarah was Annie (Thomas) Overall's sister from Shenando ah County, Virginia. I did quite a lot of research in Virginia and there w ere things that just didn't make sense on the Overall tradition, and I sta rted digging around on the Overalls and found the only early Overall who c ould have possibly been the father of these children was William, not Joh n. I suggested that Overall descendants brace themselves and do some exten sive research on it. One descendant hired professional genealogists, and w ent himself to study the records, and came to same conclusion as I had - W illiam was their father, not John, and that the John who was William's bro ther remained in Price William until the 1780s.

In summary, Nathaniel and Annie had three minister sons: Nace who marri ed Amelia Hopkins; Abraham who Susanna White; Lorenzo Dow who never marrie d. William Ramsey, son-in-law, was also a minister. Nathaniel's son Robe rt and wife Mary Espy Overall were extremely active in the early church a nd gave three sons to the Methodist ministry: William (died at age 23); As bury Dow; and Abraham Dow. Robert and Mary's other children included: Nath aniel Sims, James Garnett; Nace S.; Catherine, md. Wm. McCombs; John Wesle y; Narcissa, md. Andrew Jackson Overall, also a Methodist Minister; Louis a; Mary Ann, md. Thomas Woods; and Rachel Elizabeth.

Hope this helps.

Re: To Phyllis Winthurst
Posted by: Julie Voss (ID *****2560) Date: November 20, 2002 at 09:21:19
In Reply to: Re: To Phyllis Winthurst by Phyllis Winthurst of 14559


Dear Phyllis;
Thank you for your response. I tried to reach you via email and w as unsuccessful so I'm glad you happened to check GenForum.
Would you mind if I asked you a couple of more questions? I'm not s ure that I followed all that you said. If it is not convenient, could y ou refer me to an Overall ancestor who might be willing to help?
From what you wrote I take the following to be true:
Joshua Thomas ( -1794), the son of John Thomas (?) and his wife nam ed ?, is traditionally believed to have married Nancy Overall (1760- ), da ughter of William Overall (1735- ) and Maria Christina Froman (1736-1780 ). William Overall (1735- ) was the son of John Overall (1701-1742) and Ma ry Elliott (1703-1738). Maria Christina Froman (1736-1780) was the daught er of Paul Froman (1708-1783) and Elizabeth Hite (1711-1794).
I take William Overall (1754-1793) to be the brother of Nancy Overa ll (1760- ), correct? His wife Susannah was born a Thomas I believe. Do y ou believe her father to be William Thomas or John Thomas?
Thank you again. Sincerely, Julie Voss

Re: To Phyllis Winthurst
Posted by: Phyllis Winthurst (ID *****6594) Date: November 20, 2002 at 16: 31:37
In Reply to: Re: To Phyllis Winthurst by Julie Voss of 14559


Overall family tradition says Nancy Overall married Joshua Thomas, and th at she was the sister of William Overall who married Susannah Thomas and N athaniel Overall who married Annie Thomas. It is likely Nancy and Joshua m arried at the Fort Nashborough settlement, but there aren't any marriage r ecords that early. An early researcher presumed that the three Overall sib lings married three Thomas siblings, but that was incorrect. Overall tradi tion also says there was a brother Robert who was killed by Indians at t he Fort Nashborough settlement. I don't recall seeing anything in pri nt in official records regarding this son, but Nathaniel Overall named a s on Robert, and quite often couples named children after their siblings.

We know Joshua was the son of John who came to the settlements around 178 0; Nathaniel married Annie Thomas, dau of William Thomas and his wife Cath erine, back in Shenandoah County 26 Feb 1783; and descendants have said Su sannah was the daughter of a William and Elizabeth Thomas. There was a Wil liam and Elizabeth Thomas in the Ft. Nashborough settlement who died in 17 98 - this family also had a son Isaac - a name used by Susannah and Willi am Overall for one of their children. Doesn't necessarily mean this was Su sannah's parents, but they fit the tradition. It's just that someone decid ed all the Thomas spouses were from the same family, and they weren't.

Re: To Phyllis Winthurst
Posted by: Julie Voss (ID *****2560) Date: November 22, 2002 at 14:22:25
In Reply to: Re: To Phyllis Winthurst by Phyllis Winthurst of 14559


THANKS FOR ALL OF YOUR HELP. I appreciate it. Julie


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